I have always been a strong advocate of disclosed prices in the art and antiques industry. The fear of disclosing an asking price is nothing less than a secret reserve price. It creates a setting for being deceived and manipulated before you even make an inquiry about the item. As a method that has become an accepted format for doing business, a minimum (auction reserve price) or maximum (dealer asking price) that is not disclosed creates an artificial wall to the consumer.
I love how the famous Sotheby’s/Christie’s catalogue notation “estimate on request” attempts to add a mystique to the item; it also sets up further blockage to the reserve price. A disclosed reserve price at auction would suck the wind out of the auctioneer’s theatrics. The personality of the auctioneer is critical to the success of having a secret reserve. It demands a skill to cajole buyers very differently than the selling efforts by a dealer. At some point a dealer will have to disclose a selling price; secret reserves are secret until it is breached by either two bidders or a bidder being manipulated by an auctioneer. With any reserve you have a legitimate minimum pricing, why is this secret form of price manipulation accepted?
Institutionalizing their methods
The fear of pricing, be it a minimum or maximum starting point, is fear of the market and its natural capabilities. Part of the problem is an institutional acceptance with these forms of deception. Going to an upscale art and antiques show and seeing price tags in one booth and none in another is a bit disconcerting and reveals a lack of standards among dealers and show operators. What could you possibly hide more from a potential buyer than price; certainly your competitors knowing your prices aren’t really surprised by them and probably confirms their own valuations. For the retail public, knowing your prices gives them a sense of where a valuation point exists.
Institutionalizing their methods
The transparency created by pricing is the best starting point to any potential transaction. Antiques and art somehow have made a case to deny that fact. What makes art and antiques so exclusive to this form of commerce? Investment banks deal in significantly larger numbers when trading companies and they aren’t ashamed of starting off with a generous asking price.
Institutionalizing their methods
What has happened with the auction segment by this non-disclosure of the reserve price has degenerated into rampant conflicts of interest and other techniques for deception and manipulation. This was never how auctions were originally designed to function. It is also how two competitors, Sotheby’s and Christie’s, learned that together they could seize control of the industry by expanding these tactics. They lost the battle of colluding charges, but won the war to institutionalizing their methods.
For many dealers the fact that there exists a secret offers the opportunity to play the same game (if you have to ask for the price, you really aren’t ready to buy the item). Price tag(less) items must separate the boys from the men! Get over it; an asking price isn’t necessarily a selling price, nor should it be. Besides “everything has a price”, just start the process with one.
Lewis Baer













Joan Tumpson
August 7, 2012
Well said. What of the issue of price from the seller’s side? If one hasn’t been in a particular market for some time, one enters the auction world with perhaps a rather uncritical notion that the Auction House “experts” know what’s what or can find out. Do you think this is true?
Joan
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Lloyd Princeton
August 7, 2012
Agreed!
Lloyd
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Ian Harris
August 7, 2012
Agreed-I’ve been going on about this for years. Picture dealers are the worst culprits. If a potential buyer knows the price, he/she knows if it is within his/her reach. Embarrassing to ask and find it’s ten times the price you expected or can afford. As for auctioneers, to pretend to act in the best interest of buyers and sellers is ludicrous.
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Janice Kehoe
August 8, 2012
I agree completely. I find that clients do not want to be embarrassed by a high price so that if the price is on request they don’t bother to ask. I feel that it can be detremental to business
Fay Thomson
August 8, 2012
A Pricing Story: Long ago when I was young and not so good at lip reading, I was a tourist in a beautiful antique shop. I spied an antique bowl with green dragons upon.
“Oh that would look perfect as a centrepiece on the dining table”. I looked – price $50! “Wow, I can afford that . How much ?’ I asked the lady just to be sure.
” $500 “, she said and I started to hand over my $50. Strange conversation went between us and embarrassment for both. You see , I have a hearing problem , but it seems I also have a seeing problem- maybe the numbers are typed to close to each other. Yes they are.
Of course I could not afford $500 and I don’t know which of the participants in the price discussion was the most uncomfortable. I like to think, the antique dealer was later able to have a laugh as I do- one of those stories to tell my grandchildren.
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Antiquecollector
August 11, 2012
This is assuming, however, that there are set consistencies based on product, which there are not. One can look at five different chest of drawers which might look the same to the untrained eye, and there would be vast differences in pricing. Todays’ consumer seeks out the best deal on virtually everything. This only encourages downward pressure on prices. Unless there is some sort of rating system for each piece, I don’t see any advantage to this given that ultimately a certain price point would be set, for both the average as well as the better.
Tom Higginson
August 11, 2012
I’m afraid that I have to agree with this point by ‘Antiquecollector’. His example of the chest of drawers & the untrained eye is something that furniture dealers are always having to deal with. Like everything in life a one size fits all type solution just won’t work.
Lloyd Princeton
August 11, 2012
The post-recession consumer is looking for discounts on everything, product as we are discussing and services as well. We have been exploring numerous pricing methods, value-ads, positioning, exceptional customer service, etc. It seems to be the rare occasion that people care about our rationale, they just seem to focus on bottom line. As i explore this further, i would like to suggest the use of one word: “no”. We can refuse to sell services and products at steep discounts and stand our ground. And i do not suggest this cavalierly, as if i don’t need the money as well, but i suggest this to try and activate the part of the consumers ego that can’t stand being told “no” or worse, that they cannot have what they want. I have closed deals by pushing back.
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Antiquecollector
August 11, 2012
Yes, but with on line shopping, people frequently by-pass items simply based on price. I’ve seen dealers use symbols depicting price ranges to help provide guidance for those who are seeking the cheapest alternatives, but I would never put pricing on inventory because it encourages dealers to under-cut other dealers as well – promoting a race to the bottom on pricing – it’s one of the functions of internet shopping.
Clinton Howell
August 23, 2012
That someone will be better informed because they know the price for similar pieces is untrue. Commodification of luxury markets will ever be problematic with variables that some clients choose to understand and some do not. I mark prices in my shop and at shows, but not on the internet because I want people to be looking at a piece when they see the price tag. The issue is more complex than you suggest as far as dealers are concerned. As for your beloved nemesis, the not to be named duopoly, I would suggest that their inefficiencies are to a dealer’s advantage.
Abbey Walmsley
January 29, 2013
I agree completely However, it seems to be a struggle to implement. I have prices on artworks at all my solo exhibitions however, I was told to take the prices off the online galleries I have because it ‘deters dealers or art advisors from negotiations’. It is very frustrating, particularly in the current market. I am always happy to issue price lists and have no issue with openly discussing prices with either dealers or as more often the case collectors directly.
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